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First of all, there has been warming over the past 15 years, just not as much as initially anticipated. These days though there are studies that show that it's due to a cyclical event involving the ocean, similar to El Nino and La Nina but spanning a decade or two.
Your statement that we should do nothing and just adapt is simply so disconnected from reality that it can't be taken seriously.
There has been warming the last 15 years, it's simply been less than initially anticipated and there are theories as to why this is involving cyclical events witht the ocean, which is currently absorbing most of the heat.
CLIMATE GATE ..DUTCH ADDENDUM .. ENRON Ken Lay – Carbon Credit Exchange scam.
nuts on YT ..and metadata ain't just for ObamabushUtahNSAlovers anymore ..connected nuts making lists …epic
Considering that climategate wasn't what the media and people like Rush and Alex Jones claimed it was I don't think it wise to keep citing it. Those hacked emails didn't say what was claimed, not when you actually look at the whole emails and understand a bit of scientific jargon.
Unwise*
The warming is not 100% statistically significant considering the margin of error.
The point that you seem to be missing is that natural variation completely overwhelms the GH effect. Sure, it's going to get warmer if you add CO2, I'm not going to deny that. The problem is that the warming is not as pronounced as models said it would be.
We can debate of inaction, but no the cost of action. The cost of action. The bills before congress have exceeded 600 billion dollars.
You speak of the costs of action yet ignore the consequences of inaction. Global warming affects the climate, it influences hurricanes in a way that the weaker ones won't form as easily because of but there will be more of the bigger ones and they'll be stronger.
I pointed out why the warming of air and land temperatures aren't isn't as strong as previously anticipated in my previous post.
Even The Daily Telegraph is now taking climate change seriously. As New South Wales battles 90 major bush fires – in October for fuck's sake! – they have belatedly recognized that the IPCC is not bullshitting us.
Considering the best you can do is regurgitate NLP regarding the hacking of over 2000 emails proving the UN was scheming with the global banks …ah, ya
meta-data ..there's some more "science" for ya.
Do yourself a favour, and look at this /watch?v=7nnVQ2fROOg&list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP
Do yourself a favor, and kiss my ass. Nobody asked you, and you still can't address the emails or the DUTCH ADDENDUM to the COP15 contract
you know, the addendum with "global governance" and "global economic/bank structure"; where the UCC IMF takes control via "gov's" to steal over 70 percent of the ENRON CARBON TAX scam
awwwwww … /watch?v=LOyBfihjQvI
Insults will not serve you, you are posting these things in a public comment section so I see no need for anyone to ask me to give my opinion.I haven't looked into the dutch addendum etc so I can't say much about it, I only know that climate gate isn't what you seem to think it is. I'm assuming that you didn't even look at the link I provided, I hope I'm wrong though, since it wouldn't be very open minded of you to simply disregard it out of hand.
Am I supposed to care? GROUP THINK ..obviously some more science you missed
ENRON CARBON CREDITS ..prove scam.
UN climate gate=thousands of emails ..prove scam
DUTCH ADDENDUM ..leaked, and proves scam
Here's some "climate change" /watch?v=TAU6SJf6V6A ..bet you didn't know about the science that relates
The science that relates what? It was a video about against Monsanto and GMO (was it supposed to be, did I miss something or was that a mistake? If it was intentional could you explain please?). I don't think much of Monsanto, it has far too big a share of the market as it is. But it was a bit depressing to see all those people making claims like gmo kills people etc when to the best of my knowledge those claims aren't based on very much more than hearsay and poorly made and discredited studies.
Also, the links I provided deal with climategate emails, if you have any specific ones that you'd like to bring up then do so, the ones I've seen so far don't point to this huge conspiracy and fraud that some "sceptics" like to claim. When media and critics have to resort to taking quotes out of context and claiming that certain quotes are talking about things they actually aren't it's safe to suspect that there's something wrong with the conspiracy claims.
never mind the strange traffic …"conspiracy" LMFAO
OF COURSE you love MONSANTO SHILL
beware the YTnuts ..can't say I didn't warn ya about the nuttydoc'nuts
Turns out, GMOwen … /watch?v=g4M-5_qqJD4 rats w/tumors and the French gov, along with the rest of the EU, thinks you are a clueless moron
anyone can look up and find all the GMO dangers/studies/science for themselves …and NOW, you look like a moron pushing pseudoscience ..with "GROUP-THINK"
thanks ..I knew it would take long for the shill to show the colors ..and the YTnuts still will find the list ..never fear
To have to resort to calling someone shill just shows that you're either not very good at debating or that you don't have much of an argument. It would make just as much sense for me to call you a organic food shill, and industry worth somewhere around 100 billion dollars at present.
That particular study was torn to shreds later for being very poorly conducted. Other long term studies as well as multigeneration studies have found no such thing. go to sciencedirect and paste in /genera/studies-for-genera/independent-funding/ after org
That you think "group-think" applies to the scientific method is absurd, that you don't even consider it applies to you and yours what with the unfounded claims and the poor studies cited by those on your side is very telling.
And again, did you mean to link to a gmo video when we we're discussing climate change? If so, what was your meaning exactly? If it was just an honest mistake then so be it, it's easily done and nothing to worry about.
My mistake, while the page I directed you to is usefull in it's way, this is the one I had intended still sciencedirect but /science/article/pii/S0278691511006399 after com
Could you kindly cite a few more studies that you think are evidence for some gmo product possing a danger? I'm aware of a few, none of them valid due to poor methodology etc that have lead to inaccurate and misleading results.
over 2000 …THAT'S …2000 PLUS emails from the UN "global warming", I mean "climate change" so the ENRON Chicago CarbonCredit scam still works ….emails hacked and dump'd online
Thanks anonHacker
It would be helpful if you point to some emails, the ones I know of don't actually state anything like what some people like to claim. Am I to assume that you think that global warming is now being called climate change for some conspiritorial purpose, that there has been some suspect change in therms? It would also be great if you took the time to address some of my other posts below, no rush, just a reminder.
It's funny, some shills seem to think there is an affect by not feeding the shill. LOL
It's not the ones that would ignore my posts of info that anyone can look up ..it's the ones with enough critical thinking to understand they should trust anyone's "side" to any of it.
You won't fix a blown engine by changing a tire …ENRON CARBON CREDIT SCAM
Again, simply cite something, a specific email, a study calling the current findings on the global warming issue into question, something like that. Repeating yourself like this isn't working since I don't know what your sources are and therefore I can't judge if they are valid or not.
and even more shills ignore .. /watch?v=tnJu0wsooCU ..never what they say, but what they never say.
heatwaves floods etc… none of them are caused by CO2! Pachauri can talk all he wants, the climate goes not care about the IPCC.
again, none of the "deniers" are invited… why?
Maybe just maybe, the IPCC is a tiny bit more qualified than judomagyr? Saying that the IPCC claims that individual heatwaves and individual floods "are caused" by climate change is NOT what the IPCC has EVER said. For this is just weather at one point in time. Weather over long periods of time is climate. It's long term climate…weather at individual points…that the IPCC describes.
Judo sets up a false straw man, and knocks it down. But all he is doing is knocking down his own fabrication.
@follothefleet1 did you ever hear Hansen or Gore speak? there is no need for straw man here. they are their own worst enemies
The predictions of the establishment "experts" for the number of hurricanes is a total failure this year. antarctic ice is growing, etc…
What about the chemtrails causing 30% global dimming? This governmental concerted effort is affecting plant growth and is what should be stopped right away. The berries on a tree outside my window are brown, only one or two have turned red.
People are not causing any damage to the climate. CO2 is an essential part of the earth atmosphere. It is already at 0.04% and green houses are buying machine to make CO2 without it there will be a terrible drop in oxygen which we need to breathe. Wake up.
I completely agree…
The IPCC is a political organisation which releases it's conclusions (summary for policy makers) before the scientific report, the scientific report is then tailored to fit the summary for policy makers. The IPCC (headed by a railway engineer, not a climate scientists) is no more qualified as an authority on climate science than Barney the Dinosaur is to be an authority on Astrophysics. Every prediction made in previous IPCC reports has failed wildly. The IPCC ignore the 16 years of no temp rise
Would you invite someone who doesn't believe in faeries and has proven them not to exist to a faerie believers convention?
CO2 is a relatively insignificant greenhouse gas with massively diminishing returns over 250ppm when it comes to trapping heat, H2O is the most important and variable greenhouse gas.
Skeptics are skeptics not deniers. It is those who believe in AGW the climate change alarmists who could be called deniers as they deny reality in favor of there wildly inaccurate computer models, You may want to put an insulting label on scientists who don't agree the sky is falling in Chicken Little but this makes your position weaker not stronger. The reason these insulting labels are used is because your side can't win the scientific debate, no matter how many claims of consensus you make.
Your right CO2 is only 0.03% of atmosphere so is too tiny to have any effect. So just inject yourself with a teeny EBOLA VIRUS or eat a tiny speck of plutonium for breakfast — its harmless!!– try it and see!
Warming causes an increase in CO2 not the other way round. Chickens lay eggs -but who ever heard of an egg giving rise to a chicken — its absurd!!
Wolsey,Zunni,Titley senior commanders in CIA,US Military and Navy are worried about AGW and the Pentagon has produced a report on the threat of AGW so its obvious they are part of the Global Marxist Conspiracy to set up a World Communist Government. Privatize the Military i say!
George Bush said Americans are addicted to Oil- its clear he is part of the great worldwide Conspiracy to set up World Communist Government!!
What a biased pair of "guests" . Colorado was a 50 year event .
My guess: the comment threads on this video is crawling with climate change denier rants. Scroll down and look: Bingo! How surprising.
faulty science of the past:- earth at the center, flat earth, continental drift and now
they are telling us:- the earth spins on it's axis, hydrogen converts to helium , the sun is a thermonuclear fusion reactor, that the sun is hot, anthropological climate,
what are we to believe "ALL' SOME ' or "NONE"?
the title is misleading, there is no scientific consensus.
How many computer models need to be proven totally wrong? How many predicted apocalyptic disasters need not happen? How many 'expert' predictions on sea level, temperature rise, polar bear count etc etc.. need to be proven wrong, before you stop drinking the kool-aid? Earth hasn't warmed in over 15 years, wake up. Contributing CO2 to the atmosphere- a trace gas that makes up less than .04% of our atmosphere no less- is not only not a bad thing, its a GREAT thing. I dont know if you know this, but trees and plants feed off of it, so if you care about the environment, a rise above '400 ppm' (scary music plays and lightning crashes in background) wouldn't be so bad. For the record, we have had ice-ages in the past with the CO2 levels above 6000 ppm, so this notion that a rise above 400 ppm will fry us all and flood everything, is just propagandistic nonsense from the dogmatic climate gods on the 'scientific' green left.