Pod Save the World 
The major parties have failed to pledge to make the radical changes needed to save our planet from climate catastrophe – but people power may well save us yet.
Nish and Coco are joined by conservationist Chris Packham to find out what more our politicians need to do and how citizens can get involved. Chris also questions the wisdom of Taylor Swift’s private jet usage and brings a suggestion of how she could help create change.
Later, Adrienne Buller drops by to explore GB Energy – Labour’s signature manifesto pledge that they’ve claimed to be the most radical climate policy ever.
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Guests:
Chris Packham – Conservationist
Adrienne Buller – Author
Guest:
Chris Packham – Conservationist
Adrienne Buller – Author and Editor in Chief of The Break Down
CHAPTERS:
0:00 – The Climate problem
4:47 – Chris Packham interview
13:02 – Chris Packham on manifesto pledges
22:19 – Packham Vs Taylor Swift
25:03 – Great British Energy w/ Adrienne Buller
39:23 – Closing Thoughts
Useful links:
The Break Down
https://www.break-down.org/post/welcome-to-the-break-down
Restore Nature Now
https://www.restorenaturenow.com/
Video credits:
Hold The Front Page – Sky
TikTok / Chris Packham
Image Credits:
Associated Press
NASA
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I look forward to buying an “indy agitator” recycled cotton t-shirt soon.
I think it only got worse this year with her being able to go to almost every Chiefs game.
Packham didn't do the necessary homework. Swift's people have said she buys double the amount of carbon credits needed to offset her jet use. So the discussion needs to be how to develop the planes that use other fuel and or batteries to accomplish the much needed goals. I just watched an Alex Honnold film and in the credits it said his team purchased carbon offsets so that the film was carbon neutral, does Packham have alternatives available or is this just blame someone for clickbait? This is an engineering issue not an attack a freakin pop star issue. You need Bezos money, Bill Gates money, Swift is small potatoes in comparison.
Spotlighting Swift on this issue is just idiotic. It's as ridiculous as MAGA freaking out about her dating Travis Kelce and possibly endorsing Biden.
Do better.
It's crazy how people who call themselves environmentalists but continue to eat animal products, which cause more greenhouse gas emissions than all modes of transportation combined(!) harp on other people's transportation choices.
Great episode guys!
Great programme, Im a regular listener. I even enjoy how the Pod save theme song plays back a phrase from The Beatles "Baby its you".
Great show!!! Loved both of your guests. They are both so well informed and combine knowledge of details as well as the Big Picture. Thanks🤙
Chris Packham is a total legend, from The Really Wild Show right up to the present. The best thing about him is that, after he actually addresses actual reality, he points to the known solutions we have. Stuff like this, when spoken by politicians spouting complete nonsense, normally makes me vibrate with anger; Packham actually gives me a little hope, albeit a mostly forlorn hope
GB Energy is s slush fund for capital.
And it won't work because capitalists don't like renewables because they aren't nearly as profitable as fossil fuels.
Starmer and Reeves have adopted the same neoliberal insane faith in markets that has screwed everything since Thatcher did the same in the 1970s.
SOMETIMES MARKETS FAIL GUYS!! USE THE STATE INSTEAD!!
She has a cool-looking apartment.
Labour have gone from promising £28 billion every year for 5 years to "getting to £28 billion per year over 5 years" to £8 billion over 5 years.
They are now promising 5% of what they originally promised. FIVE PERCENT!!
These guys are liars and charlatans and you should not vote for them.
35:42 such good analysis on this. But I wish people would get more angry about the way we are being taken to the cleaners on this.
And that Labour wants that to continue!
The nuclear waste argument is a lie. Spent nuclear fuel can be, and is by several countries, reprocessed and use as fuel several time over and when done so enough times to extract as much energy as practical that super long half life is cut massively down. If it wasn't for all this campaigning against nuclear global warming at least would have been stopped dead by now.
Feckless small thinkers pluck low hanging fruit. Here's something for you to watch: https://youtube.com/shorts/xKJKZzuqr70?si=5K6h1tz6i2HrcRjC The jet transporting a woman around the world who can provide this amount of joy and optimism to young girls with the mere tip of a hat, should not be even near the top of the global climate offender hit list. Not to mention be the jet your pathetic agenda stows away on hoping to land at a destination with greater visibility. (PS…before commenting, I spent a half an hour searching for Mr. Peckham's environmental red alert warnings and or immediate calls for the immediate end to the environmental shit show occurring at Elon's south Texas grifter academy and preposterous science free rocket workshop, Not a word could I find….
PSTW-UK, Reign this shite in, mates.
I think Adrienne Buller was excellent and Nancy Wheeler in Stranger Things
"Great British Energy" sounds like the name given to tea-flavoured Red Bull. #ClimateScum #AndProud
sorry but the white liberal feminists cant stop the radical intersectional feminists from calling out debauchery against our skies
I love this pod, but would love a two sided pod… I would like to see someone like Billionaire labour supporting John Cauldwell, Deborah Meadon, Multi millionaire inequality activist Gary Stevenson and Chris Packham in the room together.
I do love the show but would love if you could talk to energy experts about energy not people who think renewables alone can provide continuous power 24/7/365. We can create sustainable energy sources in time but needs more nuanced discussion.
As Noam Chomsky has pointed out: the worst criminals on the planet (& this is in relation to the climate crisis/environmental destruction) are in the top 1 percent. Actually, a fraction of 1 percent. Because of their lifestyles (the likes of Taylor Swift, Kim Kardashian and others own private jets), their investments (the likes of Warren Buffett and others have billions invested in oil) and the fact that they set government policy… and thus keep fossil fuel capitalism in place.
Getting Taylor Swift to give up her private–good luck with that.
I think a key to success is always buy-in and I was so relieved by Chris' messaging in this podcast (in contrast to the cheeky title of the video!) – emphasising the need to support people through the transition of renewable energies and, putting pressure on Taylor Swift, but by recognising the world-wide clout she has and the responsiveness of her fanbase. A great example of how to advocate for action points that will move us forward as a sustainable society.
I can 100% see Chris Packham wearing a 'Climate Scum' t-shirt now. Am I the only one that was taken aback by Adrienne's cavernous apartment/ house? I'm so used to people streaming from a glorified cupboard/cramped bedroom with bad lighting it was a bit surreal.
There are many billionaires flying circles in their jets while the world burns. How about a universal tax within all countries on the ultra wealthy and their yachts and private planes? Why single out tailor swift
Up pops an add for BP.
For anyone reading this, imagine you're going on a long anticipated holiday and Taylor is also on your flight, the pandemonium that would ensue at airport check in, security, at the gate area, it would be hellish. And then she also has the security issue of the MAGA republicans. Wealthy elites who don't have serious security issues should not be flying private, but there absolutely are people who can only fly private due to the chaos it would cause otherwise.
Yes, but not the right time Chris as we are desperately trying to hang onto democracy in the US and Taylor is a Democrat ally! Please hold off till after the election. If Trump wins say goodbye to all you hold dear!
Chris Packham Party, I'll join up today, brilliant man.
Coco: "I know [billionaires] have power, but we have power too"
Me: sharpening the collective guillotine.
Shitting on nuclear exposes his ignorance. It's the way forward, alongside wind and solar.
Nuclear waste is an under used resource. It isn't toxic when handled correctly – there's never been an issue with nuclear waste. Water is benign until you drown in it. Disappointed that Chris is repeating unnuanced tropes. Any replies to this that is whataboutery will be ignored.
Green capitalism? No thank you!
Chris Packham is such an icon to me! I was picked on a lot as a kid for being "weird", something I've since learned was autism, and for actually giving a shit about the environment and trying to make a difference in my local community
I get sick of people moaning about the waste from nuclear power. The waste from fossil fuels (CO2) is more difficult to deal with and is more dangerous in global terms.
wind, water & sun need lithium batteries dont they??
Packham is a corrupt liar bent climate scientists have been giving deadlines for 50 years they've been wrong every single time and yet weirdly still considered climate experts what other career would tolerate that bs.weirdly rspb and greens don't give a toss about the emence damage to wildlife caused by windmills light pollution and solar but co2 is deadly somthings not right there with there morals. So who had to many holidays abroad in biblical times because its packed with floods and famines which scientists have prooved there were many times more floods and wild fires in the past than there are today we are being lied to and manipulated so our wealth,homes and freedom can be stolen from us
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