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Let’s talk about the climategate scandal. What it showed us about climate science, and about ourselves. And what “pushing a narrative” really means.
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What was the climategate scandal? What did the scientists in climategate do wrong? Did #climategate prove that scientists were faking climate data? In a word: no. In this video talk about where the most persistent myth in climate change – that scientists faked data – came from. Will I be checking comments on this video? In a word: no.
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This is the problem when ignorant people try to interpret advanced thinking. It’s more than just critical thinking it’s also a need for background info to make sense of because critical thinking about a subject is in part dependent on knowledge about a specific area one is trying to think about. Hence why the uneducated and more marketing advertising framing based right wing based thinking dosent ever deal with this stuff well. They aren’t even educated enough to know they aren’t educated enough to make sense of the stuff so everything to them is a conspiracy theory when hypocrisy is just our misunderstanding of what their actual orientation and goals are for the country.
Hi,
Thanks for debunking this myth. Question, 1:45 could you tell me more about this "Carl" analysis🫠
Take care and have a good one🫡
Fossil fuel companies knew that their product global warming in the 1970's from the data of their own damn scientists – and they lied about EVERYTHING so you have less credibility than the scientists who actually care about what's happening while earning literally a thousandth of what an oil company executive earns – always follow the money to find out who is controlling the narrative, and it sure as hell ain't scientists making five figures but rather the criminal CEO's making nine figures
Opposing watermelons is not an anti-ecology position. The right leaning ecologists oppose socialization of the green cause.
Great video, good work! 👍👍👍
Ok so how we know tree data wasn't wrong 300 years ago ? We don't have such detailed environment monitoring data from that time
Thanks for being such a cool guy my geography teacher plays all of your videos every second Friday a month
How does a guy on YouTube provide a clearer explanation with visual learning systems to these events that shaped our history and will shape our future?
This is an example of science communication!
I only listen to nonbinary scientists since they're much more likely to not have agenda'
The conservative mind is a dark and dangerous religio-mythological-magical place where the advancement of knowledge is not allowed. The more power these people have over world policy the closer we come to extinction.
Oooh I’ve been waiting for this one
If tree ring reading are wrong for modern day trees how do we know the accuracy of tree rings for trees from decades or centuries ago?
My boss is one of the people involved, thanks for covering this follow-up
My interpretation of the word “socialist” as someone who acts for the greater good of the greater population, for societal benefit over personal gain. I might be wrong on that.
sorry but if your a scientist or researcher leaving out data so it fits your model is not something they are ever taught. no matter what the data is it should have been released in full, then double checked against other data instead now we have manipulated data. i guess they would have known leaving data out is was a bad thing to do and not something scientific. making up excuses because of climate change is not really a way to prove your right just makes your data look false.
You've placed emphasis on "trick" but not "hide". I see no reasonable explanation for "hide the decline".
There were several tricks that were used to "hide the decline", the principle ones were:
1) As per the video, the graph was constructed by pasting together two different data sources. However, contrary to the video's claim, and contrary to normal scientific practice, the change of source was NOT made clear on the graph. Worse still, the differing data sources have different maximum temp sensitivities so cannot share the same temperature scale. In a detailed analysis, Muir Russell’s panel concurred that the graph was ‘misleading.’
2) The graph hides the 15th Century warming that exceeded the 20th Century warming. This was achieved by cherry-picking only one species (bristlecone pine) for the early 15th Century and within that species over-weighting one specific tree.
I spent the whole video thinking almost every sentence was a segway to an add for Ground News, or Data Visualisations courses on Brilliant.
And then came the ad. 😂
The choice of scientific question depends on what is interesting and important to the scientist and their audiences. The way of answering it is usually still aiming at objectivity and accuracy. So it was with Phil Jones and the UEA. Scientists just aren't expecting to suddenly get such interest and hostility. I think the BBC drama 'The Trick' showed this really well.
Well, one thing is certain, as the temperature rises, the CO2 level follows… difficult concept but true.
The Right – Can science support our perspective? Not in a really convincing way. Hum, I know, let's discredit science and scientists. Perfect.
The emails also included them planning how to ruin careers of people who disagreed with them.
That's ok, USA better off W/O Florida.
Why I can't see the likes?
Edit… we need to ‘hide’ the 3% of scientists who disagree by using a ‘trick’
Hah. You got me. I expected the sponsor to be Ground News, not Brilliant.
1:48 I went back to this to make sure I didn't miss a Walking Dead Carl meme here.