April 5, 2025

50 thoughts on “Could Britain Hold a Referendum on Net Zero? – TLDR News

  1. It's the same old playbook used by the oil industry and other vested interests which says that the costs are excessive while willfully ignoring the costs of doing nothing or keeping the status quo.

  2. I think you're being misleading about if the measures cost the UK public by pointing out where there are tax breaks…but they only apply to people with certain vehicles or take on other measures. These tax breaks have to be paid for via taxing others, additionally many of the green measures themselves need to be paid for with tax which forces up prices.

    So in short green policies do hit people hard, and the poor hardest.

    If you want green policies to save the world then cut some other welfare and redirect the funding. For instance, why are we spending so much on keeping unproductive people alive when that money could be going towards saving the future? Why don't we close our boarders to migration, as in addition to needing to build more homes the UK citizen has a higher than average carbon footprint due to us being a developed economy, so we should not want more people. Why not impose high tariffs on all imports and put crippling tax on foreign travel, as global trade and tourism are massive polluters. Unpleasant arguments to be sure, but if the crisis is existential then we cannot justify any of these.

  3. The rate China is building coal power stations, our emissions are always going to be insignificant relative to the bigger picture. They, and other countries such as India will never stop, regardless of what we do,so punishing ourselves and our quality of life like this will only delay the point of no return by a small amount of time. You seem to demonise Farage but you don't counter the claim that this will hit the poorest the hardest, and explain how it could be achieved without crippling the economy even further, after a terrible two years.
    But then again, your agenda is clear, you're a playing to the gallery channel, not reasonable and unbiased as you purport to be. For evidence, see the baying mob making cheap ad hominem attacks below.

  4. George Carlin said you need to look at how smart the average person and then realise that 50% of the population is dumber than that. The best argument against ever having another referendum about anything.

  5. It feels like we're just hopping from crisis to crisis. Brexit, COVID, the War in Ukraine, the cost of living crisis and last but not least Climate Change. I'm not really one to complain, but it seems there's more than one reason to feel a bit down at the moment

  6. Isn't Nigel Farage a news reporter for GB News now? How can he still be doing political campaigns and referendums – conflict of interest surely?

  7. For CO2 comparisons, you should add China to the list rather than just US and Russia. China is the biggest culprit (far more than all the others combined!) and even if the other countries go net zero it will have very little impact on climate change if those countries aren't also onboard (China, India, Middle East countries, etc).

  8. There could be a voluntary climate tax and then the all mouth superheroes could show how committed they are without taking money out of everyone else's wallet as usually.

  9. my favourite conservative contradiction si when they don't believe in climate change or won't address it properly, but also are opposed to migrants and refugees.

    The issue can and do go hand in hand. As the climate worsens, areas of the global south will become uninhabitable and thus will lead to masses of migrants streaming into Europe and North America

    Don't want that? Support climate measures

  10. It seems like politicians are like people on welfare even across the pond. I'm fascinated by parasites that can latch on for decades without killing the host.

  11. Why UK even needs a Parliament & Representative democracy when it is going to decide big issue through Referendum ??

    If UK wants to Net-Zero emissions then it needs to invest heavily in:-
    (1) Nuclear-Energy => SMRs & FBRs
    (2) Green-Hydrogen production & Storage
    (3) Strategic Uranium & Lithium Reserves
    (4) Coal Liquefaction & Gasification

  12. We should be striving to advance technology and solutions to our problems not just reverse them and pretend they don't exist. How could we claim to be a leading power if we choose to develop backwards into the industrial era?

  13. The UK is responsible for the spread of industrialism around the world, they should really take some responsibility for correcting the environmental dame it’s caused.

  14. Why do you give this nutter air time? He lied about the benefits of leaving the EU but still took his pay and pension whilst an EU MEP. He has encouraged racial tensions. His support of Trump and Putin (with Arron Banks-anyone got £500k paid in roubles and undeclared? ) makes him highly suspect when it comes to anything to do with the interests of the UK.

  15. "Top 10% of the list" isn't saying much when you omit what is the distribution among the countries.

    I mean, it is saying *something*, but probably not what you intend to say.

  16. Green technology may have dropped in price, but if they're not largely affordable (and most importantly more affordable than carbon technology) taxing carbon technology will hurt people, especially the poor.

  17. As if it's not too late to keep a global temperature at 1.5 degrees, we're NOW finding out we'd never afford to prevent the end of the world?? Great. :-/

  18. I said from the beginning that Ukraine had no chance against Russia and did not understand how Ukraine was going to defeat Russia. It's clear now. Their plan is to drag our population into this war. So that those of us who could work, get an education, travel the world, go to Ukraine and die there.

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