May 19, 2025

49 thoughts on “Trump’s Impact on European Unity

  1. Like in the case of climate change we have to do a lot of measures for the next 4 years. we have to ignore USA and do everything as if it wouldn't change anymore. Build a Defense pact parallel
    to Nato in Europe and found a european army without members like USA and Hungaria. Perhaps we could start it with bilateral defense pacts between european countries. We have to protect key industries in Europe and some of them we have to get back so that no one can blackmail us. With renewable energy producing and recycling rare earths elements we could be independent from Russia, China and oil and gas producing countries. I am not against trade across the world but when we let only others produce things we are in dire need we are dependant from them.
    And some countries we can't trust as we can see now. Russia ,China and the middleeast countries we cannot trust.

  2. This is going to result in Iceland and Norway to join the European Union. Because both countries are going to be hit hard by what happens in United States.

  3. Well, if Harris had won (just another heretic, mind you) things would have remained the same but not in a good way. Stagnation is just as bad as change. If Harris had won, the EU would just kick back, relax and keep on relying on the USA.

    Thank the Emperor that this didn't happen. Trump is a heretic against Humanity as well, but at least now things might get a move on for the better for us Humans in Europe.

    As for you Brits. .l. That's what you get for Brexit.

  4. 15:27 they spent alot of time & money forcing that rift, they won't make it easy to fix the foundations.
    In real terms it's a question to be decided in 2 years & aside from the technical rejoin window, given the quick & clean (totes suspect) regaining of the US front, team kompromate now have the free time & resources to go back in on the EU. The EU & global geopolitical lay of the land maybe very different in 24 months, even if they haven't implemented M.E final solution by then.
    On balance, strategically 27 still outnumber, out gun & out bank the techbroski 2 & their associate kabals in every aspect except the hypersonic WMD.

    (I say 2 'cause ultimately China isnt about that life, global instability is bad for business)

  5. Not to mention the influence of cultural over-spill of ult right emboldened nutjobs. Rather than seeing him get justice for his crimes, many wannabe Trumps will now see him as an icon who shows you can get away with crime as long as you are brutal enough and throw enough money in the right places.

  6. As far as I'm concerned, there are countries who were made EU members which did not have full democracies, they have to decide if they want to be democracies or not. I doubt that countries like Hungary, Chekia etc would survive outside the EU! They decide! Trump is of zero importance to the EU, unless they all kiss his ass!

  7. As things like the economy deteropiate people need to be ready to point at historic examples to educate why things were working before these greedy idiots who were intellectually born yesterday came along.

  8. You worry too much. One thing no one knows and is watching. AI. For years entire factories have been run with just one person there. Look into the future. Is AI going away? No. It will be more. I had an operation to remove my prostate, it was an AL robot with a doctor and nurse assisting with a doctor giving knockout drug. That's it. The whole they used was in the navel. A year on, you can't even see where the hole was. Now we are talking about economic growth? Where? Cars and trucks are nearly driver less. Cars are build by no one, so what jobs are there? Cleaning floors? No, there is a robot for that.

  9. I am a joiner. I think rejoin is the wrong word because it implies the same terms are available as we had before. They won't be.

    The problem is the juxtaposition of Brexit versus Rejoining. As if pro-Europeans all believe we just say yes and it happens next Tuesday.

    My own view, and disappointment, is about political leadership. If we are to join, even in 10 years, the case has to be made. Political leaders who see EU membership positively need to mention Brexit. They need to point out the parts of the OBR reports that explain the damage of Brexit. There needs to be some mention of how daily life is impacted outside the EU.

    Instead we get "make Brexit work". We get "there is no case to join the single market". We get "not in my lifetime".

    You can't make Brexit work. Unless you mean Britain will get poorer. You can't say there is no case to join unless you don't see a benefit to removing trade barriers.

    Then the answer to every question – "we are not returning to freedom of movement". Even when the question asked has nothing to do with freedom of movement.

    Labour loves to pander to the leave voter. It believes pro-europeans have nowhere else to go. There is something in that. Pro-Europeans tolerated the argument that "we can't mention Brexit otherwise we will upset red wall voters". The Tories found that when given the Lib-Dems as an alternative in some seats the Pro-Europeans deserted them. Without the threat of letting in the Conservatives that Pro-European vote may desert them. Remember that Alistair Campbell was thrown out of Labour for admitting he voted LibDem as a pro-European alternative to Labour in 2019.

    It's not about joining next Tuesday. it's about the Brexit messaging, Talking up the CPTPP deal and not ditching it as a nonsense. If anything Labour leans on pro-Brexit messaging and extinguishes all hope for Pro-Europeans. From 2016 to now we have had a Pro-European Labour Party unable and unwilling to make the case for Europe. First with Corbyn dither then Starmer's emphatic messages of a vacuous reset. Pro-Europeans have spent years waiting for Labour to lead and we get some opaque messaging that inspires no one, has no vision, no direction and no end goal.

  10. The blame for the absurdity of any one EU Member State being able to veto a policy agreed on by all the other member states is down to John Major, who introduced – and insisted upon – this particular right. No doubt he did so in order to try to pacify the (then) Eurosceptics, but the chickens have really come home to roost now with Orban.

    I wonder if John Major ever reflects on this?

  11. For sure, it is unrealistic for the UK to join the EU again unless and until the threat of the Tories taking the UK out of the EU again disappears. On this point Phil is 100% correct.

    In no small part, the right-wing billionaire controlled press and media will be doing it's damnedest to persuade the UK electorate how undesirable being in the EU was in the first place, and how disastrous it would be for the UK to join the EU again.

    And this is where Starmer has made a grave error IMO – by NOT implementing the recommendations of LEVERSON 2.

    Had Starmer felt inclined so to do, this action COULD and WOULD have clipped the wings of VIscount Rothermere and Rupert Murdoch and their band of wreckers (passing for journalists) in peddling untruths and half-truths.

    Moreover, Starmer COULD and SHOULD have made a plan to implement Electoral Reform – which TBH I cannot see Starmer ever doing, or be willing to do under ANY circumstances.

    And to make matters worse, Sarmer has agreed to carry out the Tory plans to create NUMEROUS (unregulated) Free Ports and Special Eceonomic Zones all with 30 year contracts – which in and of themselves will build a MASSIVE barrier to the UK being eligible to join the EU for AT LEAST the next 35 years.

    In short, we're screwed.

  12. For Brexit to succeed, the EU must be dismantled. For the USA to succeed the EU must be dismantled. It is much easier to crush individual countries and much harder to crush a unified block. Trump made it very clear the first time around that he was not a supporter of the EU. The isolated British are hoping to join forces with the Americans and crush the EU out of existence. It is the only way for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to regain any relevance. A declining Britain as an individual country is no match for the EU or anyone else for that matter. Yes, they have been working very hard with nationalistic rightwing forces to make a pig’s breakfast of it but now with the help of the Americans they are more optimistic that they can dismantle the EU. Especially with the Black and Brown migrant invasion currently taking place. Race has always been a strong motivation for the White Western World Order. To tell you the truth the fact that the EU lasted this long was a shock to me. Europeans are genetically predisposed to fight their unification. It comes from centuries of wars, invasion, rape and pillage of each other. I however wanted it to succeed to spite the British. If however, the EU can show the USA (well Trump) it is an asset in the America first process then Britain will be out of the picture.

  13. Having been utterly devastated by the Referendum and the gung ho attitude of the Tories to an 'advisory' vote, I am hopeful for the US, despite Trump's election. After a period of mourning literally, I was galvanised in to fighting back any way I could as an ordinary member of the public, and joined verious like minded groups trying to first get a 2nd Referendum on the deal, which Corbyn and Johnson screwed, and subsequently to help share the information about the real damage Brexit has done to the UK economy. It's taken time, mainly because there was a phoney Brexit period until the real impacts started to be seen and felt by the public and that the biased media couldn't ignore forever. But now most of the polls are definitely on the right side of the tables. With luck Trump's incapacity and odd bedfellows will help US voters realise quite quickly that he is not a great business man, and that they will not be his no. 1 priority …..ever. They might not even have to suffer for all the 4 years of his Presidency! Hopefully the penny will drop long before he gets to the end of hs term of office…..assuming he gets that far too. 🙏

  14. A user who has often commented in detail asked AI questions. I know a lecturer who has been doing the same thing with students for a few days, but using different questioning techniques.
    I showed them the user's questions and they tested it straight away. They were amazed at the statements made using the special questioning technique in the question chain. They then added additional position names to show a larger possible search radius. The result was that the EU can take on the USA at any time and the USA would lose an economic war! Due to the unique selling points of the Federal Republic of Germany/EU worldwide. The 1-3nm chip production alone, which can only be manufactured in the EU, would be a huge blow for the USA, China, Taiwan and Japan! The three most important components for the vacuum lithography machine come from Germany. The construction of the machine also comes from Germany, the Fraunhofer Institute! It's the same with quantum computers, especially with the new modular quantum computer with over 1000Qbit and more, which puts everything in the shade. Apparently you can't buy it anymore, only rent it!

    But there are a few other areas, EU FCAS was also extremely interesting, where the USA can't keep up and AI evaluations with evidence clearly showed what's going on! The EU is being whitewashed even more by Trump and there will be problems with the USA at first. But in the future they will really build on the EU's success and become a magnet for EU top foreign specialists and country cooperation! As far as the veto of Hungary and co. is concerned, AI would throw them out. As she also pointed out straight away. But she assumes that the citizens of Hungary will then vote Orban out, because the vast majority want to stay in the EU, over 70%! BREXIT is proof that they are not leaving the EU. I was only allowed to read a few pages of a big package, but it was extremely impressive what AI achieved!

  15. Given the visibly sickening support for trump’s re-election by Britain’s orange / EDL idiots and their obvious gleefulness at the prospect of selling our souls to the cartoon facist ( provable by the frenzied demands that Starmer apologises for hurty words said about Trump ) doesn’t that mean that brexit is now fully deceased as its most vocal supporters huv so publicly shat on it’s reason for being , which is not , in fact , cheaper shoes but “sovereignty innit “

  16. Let’s have it right the right wing orange / EDL clowns huv been doing cartwheels since hearing of trumps re-election thinking that it puts our new government, the Labour Party , in an awkward position but only two things are possible either the Labour Party strike ah great deal by way trade agreements with the now facist US or as per every other trade deal struck since brexit it is another paltry offering whereby showing that trump is no friend to Britain as the likes of Sammy Wilson gleefully claims , as far as I’m concerned this re- election of the cartoon facist and the sycophantic support he has had from the Perform UKnt Party is reason enuff for binning brexit completely and beginning steps to openly rejoin the EU , in all seriousness , the sovereignty argument has been totally dismembered by its most vitriolic supporters, it is fucking obvious

  17. America is a rouge nation now. We cannot discount the possibility Trump will change the constitution and make himself a lifetime President following Project 2025. Fence up America and Russia and have the EU repair relationship with China and build a through road with Africa.

  18. Alternatively weary Britons the unicorns are coming over the horizon by virtue of Nigel’s sphincter felching of the cartoon facist securing top notch trade deals good enuff to replace the lost 100 billion a year our economy has been haemorrhaging since Bobo’s brexit, boggles ma mind why the right wing of this cvntry think this is ah win for them , but then again when it comes to abject stupidity the supporters of brexit take some beating

  19. Trump, if he gets his way, could cause a massive slump in both American and European economies. Adding to that is the instability in Europe with incumbent governments losing in Italy, Netherlands and very nearly in France. Ireland has probably the best political relationship with the US out of any EU states and there's now a general election in Ireland later this month. While one of the three government parties (Greens) look set for near destruction Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil are both polling well.

    Sinn Féin, although polling comparatively poorly partly due to the rise of the far right siphoning their more nationalistic supporters, can't be entirely ruled out either. Especially if they have a campaign like 2020 and hit home about the government's failures in housing, healthcare (two most important issues according to the Irish electorate) and inflation.

    Few interesting weeks ahead in Ireland.

  20. Europe as a whole (geographically and politically) must forget the US altogether. It no longer exists in any worthwhile form. Giving in to dictators and would be dictators like the Orang Utan in Mar a Lago is how we all ended up in this mess in the first place. Rigged US elections carry no weight on this side of the Atlantic.

  21. sorry to say Phil but combating climate change is now a lost case, Tumpy – putler and winy the poo will not help so the EU stands +- alone there.
    However now it's even more important to invest in renewable energy, since that is the biggest trump card the orange one and putler has over Europe.

  22. The reason why people don't see a wider problem… Is because there isn't one. We (the West) started this fight with Russia in 1992 when we broke our promise not to move NATO an inch eastward. Since then we have been goading the Russians at every opportunity, with a deliberate policy of containment / dismemberment. All the Russians wanted was to be accepted in to the North Atlantic club. Historic Russophobia (too big, too different) meant that this was not going to happen. Finally Putin decided he needed to act. Whether we agree with his decision or not, there is no argument that there was ample peaceful off ramps to war if the US and the Europeans wanted to take one. I blame the US more than the Europeans, but the Europeans did very little to try and stop them. We've acted as their lap dog all along as they pursue their Neocon ambitions of ensuring US primacy globally, by eliminating any potential peer competitors (The Wolfowitz Doctrine). We share a continent with the Russians so we need to find a way to live in peace with them. We aren't going to be buddies anymore, thats for sure, we have blown that… We aren't going to defeat them either, especially with their newly found friends, China and the rest of BRICS. We have one option. We need to end the war and help create the mutual security framework the Russians have sought all along. I was hoping that this was going to be a serious analysis of Europes options and how Europe can emerge from under the yoke of the Americans. This isn't about Trump… This is about the fact that US interests and European interests are not the same. As Henry Kissinger famously said: “It may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal”.

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